Thursday, September 6, 2007

The Choices we make are the world we live in...

"Just because you challenge assumptions of tradition doesn’t make you impious.’~Mimi Haddad

And another thing: why do women continue to attend churches that oppress them?

Some interesting commentary--

What do you think? What have you lived?


Kansas Bob September 7, 2007 at 4:27 PM  

I might ask the same question about men ... I think that it is all about leadership's exalted view of themselves.

Patchouli September 8, 2007 at 5:41 AM  

Ah, KB, great minds think alike! That was one of the the first comments made on the CBE blog.

My experience has been both the leadership's exalted view of themselves (while preaching the 'servant' line) and that they truly believe that they are living out the literal word of God--men as master, women submitting--it's a God thing.

Kansas Bob September 8, 2007 at 1:04 PM  

Maybe it is all about Entitlement?

ste-pha-nie September 12, 2007 at 8:40 AM  

How incredibly timely this comes.

I'm so glad it's not "just me."

Heidi Renee September 16, 2007 at 3:22 AM  

my parents began going to a plymouth brethren bible chapel with they got "saved" - so it was were i grew up. silent and head covered. i stayed there because they had created such fear in me that THEY were the ONLY ones with the TRUTH and that me being silent with my head covered made god happy.

fear. plain, old, stinking fear. if you step outside of the box god will be sad. so you stay. and you think with all your heart 'well, at least god is pleased' - everyone else is going to hell...

Patchouli September 16, 2007 at 7:15 AM  

"...and the Truth will set you free!"

anj September 20, 2007 at 9:06 AM  

I have wondered that since my eyes became opened to how I conspired with the overt oppression of the churches I attended. I remember looking at the pastors (husband and wife) and thinking how come he preaches and she does behind the scenes stuff? Do they both have callings to pastor? Soon, it became clear it was his calling, and she was support staff. As a professional at the time, I remember thinking how could I invite anyone, male or female, that I work with to this set-up of gender inequality? I worship with unprogrammed Friends now; the leadership issue is non-existent, as is the gender issue. From the beginning, Quakers have believed that all are equal, including women! And all are ministers. It would take a knock off my horse and blinding to get me back in a church where a women in the pulpit or on the leadership board is a novelty or an issue.